I sat down with Taylor Lorenz to discuss her new book, Extremely Online — the untold story of fame, influence, and power on the internet. Aside from covering some of the most culturally relevant online moments of the past decade, she is the first person to write extensively about the history of social media from the user/creator perspective. Check out all of the other topics we discussed below!
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Chapters
0:00 - Intro
0:35 - Taylor and I’s history
3:55 - Her new book, Extremely Online
6:25 - The early social media landscape
8:31 - Why people didn’t take “online culture” seriously
10:42 - The ethics of reporting on kids and teens
11:59 - Social media’s turning point
13:20 - Living life online 24/7
17:02 - Is the physical world the “real world”?
19:40 - Mom bloggers as the first influencers
22:25 - Living in public
24:25 - Oversharing online
26:32 - What needs to change about social media
27:42 - Forbes’ Top Creators list
28:49 - Tinx’s following vs income
30:38 - Name, image, likeness (NIL)
35:35 - Setting boundaries with your audience
37:13 - CarynAI
39:38 - Why we need more ephemerality online
42:53 - Creators getting into politics
45:21 - Elon Musk
51:00 - Independent (New) media vs Legacy media
53:05 - Tucker Carlson
54:28 - Will independent media’s power continue?
56:14 - Taylor’s most impactful reporting
56:55 - The future of parenting
59:54 - Her advice for up-and-coming journalists
1:01:12 - Outro
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Purchase the book: https://amzn.to/40aYdvD
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You can find Taylor on
Twitter: https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@taylorlorenz
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/taylorlorenz/
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Intro animation by Black Book Studio: https://www.blackbook.studio/
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You can also find me on
Twitter: https://twitter.com/julesterpak
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@julesterpak
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julesterpak
Substack: https://www.growingdigital.net/
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Join for dialogue and opportunities: https://discord.gg/8ueURBRvc7
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Watch on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6LqoqQA5cborb7pJsZTftw
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My production gear: https://amzn.to/3OFWWJv
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Business inquiries: julesterpak@gmail.com
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Why show definitions for things that may be obvious to viewers — for example: TikTok?
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(1) For my cute grandparents. But (2) For this video to be as useful as possible, for as long as possible. Platforms come and go, so future generations aren't going to be as acquainted with these things as we are today. "Simple" definitions will end up being useful, historical context come that time.
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FEATURED MEDIA
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ABC Taylor Lorenz interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zkIUR4Z6FI
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MSNBC Taylor Lorenz interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa3zVDRZ8r4
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Semafor Taylor Lorenz interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7gLg0ity3Y
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The Young Turks defend Taylor Lorenz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTiSE8Myj50
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Megyn Kelly and Glenn Greenwald: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbSuLbLBbeU
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Tucker Carlson responds to the New York Times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pza9fRxW5WM
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Jake Paul mentioned at the Republican debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-uVLRRIgh0
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Kai Cenat causes mayhem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXpNEQOGjbU