Bahle Nhlapho shifts the discussion today to welcome Ms. Kokie (Koketso) Malope, an ordained pastor, professional nurse, and author from Hammanskraal, who is also a mother of four children and has two siblings. Ms. Malope shares her personal journey of resilience, describing how her parents’ separation or divorce led her to be raised by her grandmother and great-grandmother. Drawing from her book, "Parental Alienation," she addresses the poignant issue of one parent preventing a child from seeing the other parent after she also went through the same experience of divorce. In the conversation, she reveals that she was granted custody of her children with specific stipulations regarding visitation rights. However, Ms. Malope also advises listeners about the drawbacks of settling divorce matters outside of court, and how they went behind her back to have full custody of children, highlighting the potential negative consequences that can affect both parents and children.