Did you dream about growing up to the be the next Pope also!? You and Spencer have so much in common!! Spencer and David met during their mutual time in seminary. The only difference is that Spencer spent more than 5 years before that also in formation for a religious order. Spencer tells a tale of growing up in a conservative religious household where being "properly ordered" was of utmost importance, discusses where he first fell in love (it's not where you'd normally think), and explains his journey of self-discovery and self-acceptance.

He is now happily living in Houston, Texas, having left ministry and the church, but having recognized an important aspect about his life. Come listen as to where Spencer finds himself on the LGBTQ+ spectrum today and hear PART ONE of his incredible tale.

Spencer was also very instrumental in helping actualize the It's OK To Be Gay Podcast, so we wish to express our true gratitude for his encouragement, the details he shared, and his willingness to help get things off the ground here! Spencer and a group of his ex-seminarian brothers host a podcast of their own, called "The CoFounders." You can find their podcast here: https://open.spotify.com/show/5BVDNWCSVRTOTK8amJ8Gjp