Marianne Bjelland Kartzow discusses her chapter “Metaphors of Enslavement” in the book Ancient Slavery and Its New Testament Contexts. Her research focuses on the significance of slavery in ancient texts and its implications for understanding figures like Mary and Paul. She explores the complexities of consent in slavery, the metaphorical use of slavery in biblical texts, and how these concepts resonate with contemporary discussions about human dignity and societal structures. The conversation concludes with recommendations for further reading and a call for curiosity and action regarding social issues. Marianne recommends that listeners use libraries as much as possible. To that end, check out this global directory of libraries or this resource for locating sources. Online resources for research also include JSTOR and Google Scholar. She also mentioned her appreciation for the poet Edith Södergran.   Follow the podcast on Apple, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, iHeartRadio, Player FM, Listen Notes, Podchaser, Boomplay. Please reach out with guest suggestions and/or feedback at itmeanswhatitmeans@gmail.com. If you would like to support the podcast financially, you can hear episodes a week early for $5 a month on Patreon. You can also get updates and promotional clips if you follow us on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, Bluesky, Spoutible, Twitter, Threads, Wordpress, and Tumblr.