This podcast is about the tasks and responsibilities of business and IT in agile projects. It explains why Scrum can only cover some of the requirements to be met and is not always the best approach to a project. The DSDM model is recommended as a comprehensive approach that includes phases such as feasibility study and foundation planning before implementation starts, e.g. with Scrum. The paper argues for a methodical eclecticism that combines Scrum with other approaches such as Lean or XP. The key success factor is a holistic view of the project that goes beyond pure software development.