Scot Nakagawa and Eric Ward talk together at " It Did Happen Here: Nothing is Final", recorded March 4, 2021 at an event sponsored by the Multnomah County Library.

Scot  was the founding staff person of the Coalition for Human Dignity, and is co-founder and Senior Partner of ChangeLab, a national racial  equity think/act lab promoting innovation in racial equity advocacy. Eric Ward  founded and directed a community project to expose and counter  hate groups and respond to bigoted violence with the Community Alliance  of Lane County (1990–1994).He is currently the Executive Director of the Western States Center.

Thanks to Enrique and Lindsey from the Multnomah County Library