This interview with Phil Lyman was originally recorded in September 2024, nearly a year before the tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk. At the time, Lyman was running for governor of Utah. In this conversation, he opened up about what he believed to be deep corruption within Utah politics, his time in jail for standing up to the federal government, and why he suspected Governor Spencer Cox may have cheated in the race. We’re reuploading this episode now because recent allegations from Candace Owens have put Phil Lyman back in the spotlight. This is the original interview, unedited, for historical context and transparency. Subscribe and follow Investigate Earth Podcast for more unfiltered interviews and deep dives.

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