Full disclaimer- this topic is not an area of strength for either one of us, and our guess is, if you’re listening to a podcast like this, it may not be for you either. However, by getting uncomfortable and exploring this topic, we stumbled into some surprising findings, and had some real honesty moments of NOT having it all figured out. Let’s figure out what “presence” is, why we desire it, what makes it so dang hard, and try to uncover some maybe sorta ways to try to gain more of it in our lives.