In this conversation, Dr. Wyatt Graham and Dr. Matthew Hoskin delve into Boethius's philosophical arguments in 'The Consolation of Philosophy,' particularly focusing on the nature of evil and its existence. They explore the idea that evil is not a positive force but rather a lack of good, leading to the conclusion that evil men, despite their actions, do not truly exist in a meaningful sense. The discussion also touches on the weakness of those who pursue evil, the relationship between goodness and happiness, and the illusion of power held by evil individuals. Literary references, including characters from Tolkien's works, are used to illustrate these philosophical points, culminating in a rich exploration of the themes of power, goodness, and the nature of existence.