In this conversation with David Loy, we speak about the intertwinig and connection between the current ecological crisis and our personal existential feeling of lack of wholeness. A lack created by consumerism, todays dominating religion acording to David Loy.

These are some of the themes of our conversation:

• A lot of the problems we find ourselves in have to do with consciousness
• The climate crisis is just the tip of the iceberg
• We are not separate from the natural world
• The natural world is not just our conveniance store or a place to dump stuff
• Our mechanistic view of life
• non-dualiti and non-separation
• It’s not just a political crisis but also a spiritual one
• In this nonduality we are going to realise something new about ourselves and the world, and see that there is no separation
• The healing of the earth will also result in a healing of ourselves
• This delusion of individualism and the sense of lack it brings with it
• The wholeness we long for occurs when we are able to open up to this nonduality, mother earth, Buddha nature, God… this opening can take place through some kind of spiritual practice.
• Time is also connected to this sense of lack. There is this future orientation in this lack paradigm, that we miss the present moment. This makes us unable to appreciate what is already here
• Mindfulness, meditation and a supportive community are important parts of counteraction
• Mindfulness, meditation and a supportive community are important parts of counteraction
• Joanna Macy - We must feel more deeply to transform more deeply
• What is it greater than myself, that I want to be in service of?
• To be engaged in what we believe in, but not be attached to the result, this is also about non-attachment
• Our commitment to this work has to be our gift, given without expectations
• Cultivating Dont know mind
• The bodhisatwa path - we are not doing it for ourselves, but for the good of all living beings
• Dogen: it’s not about rejecting concepts, it’s about liberating the concepts - this is the creativity that springs from non duality.
• This future orientation is very much connected to grasping and consumerism and takes us away from the flow of the eternal now
• Insofar as we believe in a separate selfe, We are haunted by this sense of lack
• The delusion of separation
• We often engage in lack projects to fill the bottomless hole of our being
• There is some movement or tendency in the world to work against the ruling paradigm
• How our personal path is intertwined with the more global, societal path
• The website of the echodharma center in Catalunya, Spain: http://www.ecodharma.com

David Loy's website: www.davidloy.org

My website: www.duritaholm.com