Leon Vanderpol, the founder of transformational coaching and author of “A shift in being” tells us about deep coaching in this conversation

We speak about his adoptive country Taiwan, as well as the wild beauty of his native country Canada, and how we often appreciate nature even more as we mature, and how that also nurtures our wish to care for nature, and how it is becoming urgent to care for it.

We speak about what deep transformation actually is, and how it is often spurred on by a longing for something that we don’t even know how to name in the beginning.

Leon tells us how important it is not to judge anyone, and this also ties in to the acceptance of what is unfolding in every moment. Can you just hold this as it is, becomes the question.

This weaves into the inquiry if you can become the space yourself in which transformative potentials of the world are possible.

This means you need to do that work, so you can become that space, but it is always an invitation, not a forcing.

We don't have to be blaming, and judging, we can be that transformative space, Leon says.

One of the practices is to slow it all down, to be able to listen, if you want to go beyond the surface - this is the biggest challenge, he says.

Slowing down is the precondition to any deep meaning full work. As well as to growing our consciousness. This is difficult, because we see the word out there striving, so we think we need to be striving too.

The 5D world is not about striving, you let it unfold, you facilitate that unfolding. This is Less about gold setting, and more about intention. Intention is a very creative thing. When you operate from intention you are co-creating, and then trust that life is listening. And trust is also a practice, and this trust in life makes you more relaxed, you allow life to take you where it wants to. Says Leon.

Zorba the Greek and his catastrophic facilitating the butterfly get out of the chrysalis, also gets mentioned.

We need to hold space and bear witness for our struggles. Not in a detached way, but in a supportive way with a lot of presence and normalising the difficult experience.

Leon’s favourite question to hold is: Who do you choose to be. And it is a question about Your beingness, about the quality of your consciousness.

Leon speaks about the soul level awareness, and meeting people where they are, about this embodied beingness - the ebb and flow of beingness - and what are the barriers to living more in our beingness. He also says that soul consciousness is more loving, more peaceful and more compassionate and spacious.

We also have to be willing to relinquish some things, to gain an inner understanding, and surrender to life. But there is still Economy in the 5D world works differently than in the 3D world, he says. There is another world to bring about good conditions for life, engaging with the mind and consciousness, it’s a partnership with life.

We need to bring our growth mindset to our inside, and not so much to the outside.

We also talk about how men often hold to this external level - creating on the outside, building something, and feeling a sense of accomplishment and self worth from it.

The beauty is that when we create spaces, in which people can relax and feel safe and open up to their vulnerability inside, and connect with that, they will make good choices, not from fear, because when the fear starts to fade, they make powerful right choices.