
Are Indigenous peoples always forest guardians? Or can they also become forest destroyers? In this episode, we explore the complex and nuanced reality behind these labels, through the case study of the Batwa community in the Democratic Republic of Congo. My guest, Fergus O'Leary Simpson, joins me to discuss his recent research showing why the answer is not as simple as it seems — and why understanding the social and economic context is key.
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Our conversation is based on the article 'Indigenous forest destroyers or guardians? The indigenous Batwa and their ancestral forests in Kahuzi-Biega National Park, DRC' (Simpson et al., 2024). We also reference Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer during the discussion.