Chief Brown is the former Police Chief of Dallas and the former Police Superintendent of Chicago. His career spans 30+ years with a commitment to viewing his work through the lens of truth and grace. Chief Brown grew up in Dallas and was the first police chief to utilize an explosive armed robot to eliminate a suspect during the deadly July 7th, 2016 attack that killed 5 DPD officers. Chief Brown is credited with strengthening DPD’s ties to the community, lowering violent crime, and making Dallas a safer city.
In This Episode
[02:45] Losing a Partner and Finding Purpose: The traumatic loss of his partner and how it shaped his path to leadership.
[05:00] July 7, 2016 – A Chief’s Toughest Day: An in-depth account of the Dallas protest shooting, decision-making in crisis, and use of a robot bomb—unprecedented in U.S. policing.
[13:50] Growing Up in South Oak Cliff: The role of family, the crack epidemic, and why he chose a career in law enforcement despite personal and family resistance.
[17:40] Discretion, Compassion, and Policing with Heart: A powerful story of showing grace to a young man that changed how he approached community policing.
[20:55] Policing Philosophy & Challenges with Police Culture: Pushing back on union dynamics, promoting community accountability, and the evolution from arrest-focused to community-focused.
[24:10] George Floyd & Police Reform: Insights into systemic issues, internal discipline, and the delicate balance leaders must strike.
[26:20] The Future of Policing: Challenges recruiting young people, political influence, and his hope for moderation in policing narratives.
[30:00] Leading in Dallas vs. Chicago: Cultural, political, and structural differences between the two cities—and his mission to develop local leadership in Chicago.
[37:10] Strategic Police Growth in Dallas: How increased staffing under Mayor Rawlings led to crime reduction and better response times.
[39:50] Community Restoration & Economic Framing: Why framing police investment as economic development helped foster support in historically underserved areas.
[41:00] Faith, Service, and the Role of the Church: Chief Brown shares the spiritual foundation behind his resilience and why personal relationships matter more than policy.
[43:40] “Defund the Police” & Prosecutorial Agendas: His critique of the defunding movement, policy failures, and the downstream effects on neighborhoods that need protection the most.
[48:45] Investing in Young People & Leadership Diversity: A call to raise up new leaders—especially women—and why he believes servant leadership is still the path forward.
[50:45] Legacy, Estate Planning, and Family Impact: Chief Brown reflects on giving back intentionally.
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