We've got 2 of our favorite artists of the year in for an interview double header - first up is Giuliana Mormile of Kicksie to talk about her new record Slouch, the trauma of playing your first show, the supply and demand issues that accompany finding a drummer, and the culture shock of a native Canadian visiting their first American gas station.

Then Kevin Patrick Sullivan (aka Field Medic) joins the show (26:15) for a candid conversation on trying to recapture the joy of creating his first album through musical exploration and innovation on it's spiritual successor "Light is Gone 2". It's a deep dive into the Field Medic lore, escapism via the creative process, not rocking, and fulfilling the Dope Girl Chronicles prophecy.