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What if the Government Believes in U.F.O.s More Than You Do?
Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
59 minutes 41 seconds
6 days ago
What if the Government Believes in U.F.O.s More Than You Do?
U.F.O.s, fairies and abductions! This week, Ross talks to Diana Walsh Pasulka, a professor of religious studies, about how a deep dive into Catholic archives led her down a path to unravel the connections between religion, extraterrestrial encounters and government secrecy.
Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
The first draft of our future. Mapping the new world order through interviews and conversations. Every Thursday, from New York Times Opinion.
Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
