This episode features a powerful and eye-opening conversation with former DFL candidate Erickson Saye, who joins Abe Kamara for a candid discussion about lessons learned from his recent campaign and what it truly takes to win in today’s political climate.

Erickson reflects on the hard truths of running for office — from the critical role money plays in campaigns to the reality that too many in our immigrant community remain on the sidelines. As he puts it, “If you don’t mess with politics, politics messes with you.”

Together, they explore why political participation is essential, how the major parties are missing the mark in engaging immigrant voters, and why local politics is where real change begins. This engaging and thought-provoking episode is both a wake-up call and a call to action — reminding every immigrant that our vote, our voice, and our civic power matter more than ever.

Tune in, get inspired, and let’s build the future together.