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Daniel: You... you've traveled right?

Danilo: I have traveled a lot actually, a lot inside Brazil and a little bit outside too. I have lived for 3 months in Europe, in Poland.

Daniel: Way, way colder, right?

Danilo: Way colder, yeah.

Daniel: Rio is very, very hot.

Danilo: It's much hotter than São Paulo.

Daniel: Yeah it's among the hottest places in Brazil, like really, among the hottest.

Danilo: You know I have been to Rio for some time. I have lived there for 6 months actually, and I know Bangú, it's very hot, it's hotter than the other parts of Rio de Janeiro because it’s between two mountains, is that correct?

Daniel: Yes, exactly.

Danilo: São Paulo is known for being, you know, colder than other parts.

Daniel: I didn’t get to know the city, but it's way, way bigger than what I'm used to.

Danilo: Yeah, Rio de Janeiro is pretty big, you know, São Paulo is bigger of course, it’s one of the biggest cities in the world, but Rio de Janeiro is also very big. 6.000.000 people if I recall correctly.

Daniel:  I lived most of the time in Niteroi, not actually the city of Rio, so it's smaller than Rio. When you go to São Paulo, it's a shock.

Danilo: You know, but some people think that Rio de Janeiro is more beautiful than São Paulo, and to some degree I agree, you know. You have a lot of beautiful nature and it’s prettier in general than São Paulo. l lived in Gamboa,you know, and from the window of my room I could see that bridge… Rio-Niteroi I think is the name of the bridge, I don’t know. Bigger than any bridge that I have ever seen.

Daniel: Yeah, it's crossing the Guanabara Bay, it’s beautiful.

Danilo: You know, the city in itself is not that pretty… I have met a lot of Polish people there, you know, they came from Poland to spend some time there, and they always thought that São Paulo was cleaner.

Daniel: Yes, of course.

Danilo: Rio de Janeiro is sometimes dirtier than São Paulo and it’s like Rio de Janeiro is much more violent .

Daniel: That is one of its hugest problems.

Danilo: On the statistics it’s not the most violent city in Brazil, but it feels like it.

Daniel: Yeah it does feel like it.

Danilo: Because you know, I remember the first time that I heard a grenade was when I was living in Rio de Janeiro. It was a very loud sound, louder than anything that I have ever heard, one of the loudest sounds I have ever heard. I thought it was a bomb, you know, falling from the sky, but it was just a grenade. In many ways I think that Rio de Janeiro is cheaper than São Paulo. I was buying Guaravita for one

real, it's like the cheapest I’ve ever seen.

Daniel: Yeah.

Danilo: So you grew up in a small town right? What's the name of your hometown?

Daniel: It’s Rio das Ostras.

Danilo: Rio das Ostras, nice. I have heard of it, but never been there. Do you prefer smaller cities or do you prefer bigger cities?

Daniel: That's a good question. After a while, when I started to get used to living in a bigger city, there's just so much more to do, you know, more movement. It’s a busier city... it's like, a little too much sometimes, for me, but yeah, I kind of liked it.