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Seer Stones and the Miracle of Book of Mormon Translation
Informed Saints
1 hour 3 minutes 42 seconds
1 month ago
Seer Stones and the Miracle of Book of Mormon Translation
Was Joseph Smith’s use of seer stones evidence of superstition — or of divine power?
In this episode of Informed Saints, hosts Jasmin Rappleye, Neal Rappleye, and Stephen Smoot sit down with Dr. Gerrit Dirkmaat (BYU professor, historian, and author of From Darkness unto Light) to explore the historical sources behind the Book of Mormon translation. Together, they discuss what the witnesses saw, how early Saints understood seer stones and the Urim and Thummim, and why the very strangeness of the translation process actually strengthens, rather than weakens, the case for its divinity.
What you’ll learn:
Why Joseph’s contemporaries saw seer stones as miraculous, not fraudulent
How early accounts from Emma Smith, Martin Harris, and others describe the translation
The difference between folk magic, biblical precedent, and divine seership
Why the physical reality of the gold plates remains the strongest defense of Joseph’s calling
A faith-affirming conversation that blends history, theology, and testimony.
Here are some of the resources discussed in the episode as well as other valuable resources on this topic!
-Artwork credit to Anthony Sweat who granted permissions for us to share his incredible artwork.
https://www.anthonysweat.com
Start here (official & concise)
Gospel Topics — Book of Mormon Translation
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/book-of-mormon-translation
Church History Topic — Seer Stones
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/seer-stones
Saints, Vol. 1 (The Standard of Truth)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v1
Primary sources (witnesses & early attestations)
Emma Smith’s 1879 “Last Testimony” (PDF)
https://rsc.byu.edu/sites/default/files/pub_content/pdf/testimony%20of%20emma%20smith.pdf
Joseph Knight Sr. reminiscences (Church History Library catalog)
https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/record/37b7b91c-4148-45d6-8f32-df4acf06fe99
David Whitmer — An Address to All Believers in Christ
https://archive.org/details/addresstoallbeli00whit
Early newspaper: Jonathan A. Hadley (Palmyra Freeman, 1829)
https://rsc.byu.edu/coming-forth-book-mormon/joseph-smiths-negotiations-publish-book-mormon
Wilford Woodruff Papers (Urim & Thummim; Manti consecration)
https://www.wilfordwoodruffpapers.org/day-in-church-history/1841-12-02
Scholarship & synthesis (faithful)
Turley, Jensen & Ashurst-McGee — “Joseph the Seer” (Ensign, Oct. 2015)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2015/10/joseph-the-seer
Informed Saints
The podcast where you can learn about everything from polygamy to gold plates. Hosted by Stephen Smoot, Neal Rappleye, and Jasmin Rappleye.