A conversation with Tao Gaede about his journey to becoming a mathematician and how he discovered at an older age that he wants to do math for a living. Tyler does not understand math, so he tries to figure out what a mathematician actually does. More importantly, why would someone find math fascinating? In the end, the two realize that math and science are not all that different. The last two years have also taught us that the insane barrier to higher learning (e.g., tuition costs) is a disservice to humanity. In 2022, we want to spend several episodes a year talking with experts and learning from them. Afterwards, we will listen in on the monkeys think about what the expert shared. This is the first episode of our new mission - let everyone onto the playground.