How should church leaders think and speak about immigration? How should we engage with the Assisted Dying Bill votes? What does AI teach us about being human?

In this episode of In:Dependence, Phil Topham (FIEC Executive Director), Adrian Reynolds (FIEC Head of National Ministries), and John Stevens (FIEC National Director), discuss some of the stories in the news and how they relate to local church leadership.

You can watch a video of this episode and get and more resources for church leaders on ⁠the FIEC website⁠.

Show notes

• FIEC Leaders' Conference 2025 (fiec.org.uk)
• UK risks becoming ‘island of strangers’ without more immigration curbs, Starmer says (theguardian.com)
• Scottish assisted dying bill passes first vote (bbc.co.uk)
• Assisted Suicide (christian.org.uk)
• Spotlight: AI (North Bradley Baptist Church) (youtube.com)
• ChatGPT is getting smarter, but its hallucinations are spiraling (techradar.com)

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00:00 - European Leadership Forum and Korean connections

08:55 - The challenge of immigration

15:53 - Speaking about immigration

20:05 - The Assisted Dying Bill in Scotland

25:18 - When AI gets it wrong