In this episode of In The Waves, I talk with musician Derek Webb about the various Dereks that have been, the painful/blissful loss of certainty, and what it looks like to hypothesize truths in real time. I also tell Derek a somewhat embarrassing story that demonstrates just how complicated my brain is—but also what a true fan I am.

A 20+ year music industry veteran, Derek Webb has sold millions of albums as a founding member of Texas-based folk/rock band Caedmon’s Call and ruffled political & spiritual feathers alike during his nearly 20-year solo career. He is also founder of the revolutionary tribe-building platform NoiseTrade (acquired by Paste Magazine in 2019), MiddleClassMusician.com, an online course crafted to teach artists how to make both music & money, and The Airing of Grief podcast, discussing stories of spiritual de & reconstruction. In 2021, Webb embarked on a journey to conceptualize, write, and record his new album, The Jesus Hypothesis, live and in real-time through the membership platform, Patreon. Here, patrons get a unique insider’s look at the process of making an album and exploring belief through livestreamed writing sessions, demos of the songs, and behind-the-scenes commentary in a bi-weekly podcast.

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