In this conversation, Katja and Asmae continue last episode’s exploration of the nervous system. What does “survival mode” and “safety” really mean?

Some threads of this conversation include:

• Why the nervous system’s survival orientation is neutral, not negative.
• How “safe spaces” often become spaces of control, and what genuine respect and care look like instead.
• The importance of triggers, judgment, and discernment as forms of relational intelligence.
• Healing as living, laughing, and relating—not chasing symptoms.
• The spiritual trap of expecting life (or the universe) to guarantee comfort.
• Death, entropy, and the cyclical intelligence of life beyond the capitalist obsession with “more.”
• The body as geometry, pattern, and movement—a living interface with the more-than-human world.