What happens when two abstract artists — one a painter, one a composer — interpret the same story through different mediums?In this episode of In the Making with Mander, I sit down with jazz saxophonist and composer Nick Biello to talk about our collaboration on Before the Flood, a powerful and personal piece that started as sound and became a 20-foot painted scroll made with handmade inks inspired by ancient civilizations.

We dive into the abstract nature of instrumental music and intuitive art, the deep trust involved in creative translation, and the magic of feeling truly seen in your work. We also talk about being present, letting go in the creative process, and how collaboration can unlock layers in your own practice you didn’t know were there.

This one’s special.

Find Nick Biello's music on all streaming platforms. His album New America will be released on June 20th.

Before the Flood debuts at the Jewish Community Center in West Hartford, CT this summer. The exhibition runs from July 2 - August 26. Artist reception July 24th. See www.amandaroyart.com for details.