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In the Long Run
Joao Dias Ferreira, Marie Bemler, Jim Tolman
20 episodes
5 days ago
"In the Long Run" Podcast – Where technology, organizational change, and strategy collide. Join three experts as they break down the latest tech news, explore how technology is shaping conversations, and offer actionable insights on navigating AI and digital transformation in organizations. Get ahead of the curve and drive your business forward—one episode at a time
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"In the Long Run" Podcast – Where technology, organizational change, and strategy collide. Join three experts as they break down the latest tech news, explore how technology is shaping conversations, and offer actionable insights on navigating AI and digital transformation in organizations. Get ahead of the curve and drive your business forward—one episode at a time
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Ep. 16 - When AI Rewrites Itself, Who’ll Rule Your Ears? And Your Summer Survival Kit
In the Long Run
44 minutes 52 seconds
4 months ago
Ep. 16 - When AI Rewrites Itself, Who’ll Rule Your Ears? And Your Summer Survival Kit

This episode explores the future of self-improving AI. MIT’s SEAL framework lets language models generate their own fine-tuning data and learning goals. Sakana AI’s Darwin Gödel Machine goes a step further: it rewrites its own code through evolutionary search, building a growing library of smarter agents. These advances point to a future where smaller, more adaptable models can keep learning on the fly.

We also cover the conflict between OpenAI and the Google-backed audio startup iyO. OpenAI is investing $6.5 billion in Jony Ive’s hardware company (io) to develop a new AI companion. iyO is about to launch iyO One, AI-powered earbuds for voice-first interaction. The legal clash reflects rising expectations in AI-native hardware.

Google DeepMind introduces Gemini Robotics On-Device. It runs locally on robots, removing the need for internet access and enabling real-time object control. The new SDK lets developers fine-tune models with just 50 demonstrations, making it quicker to adapt to new tasks.

Your Summer Survival Kit: listen again to our episode “Attention Is All You Need”, read Klara and the Sun, and let Jim explore AI tools like Synthesia, Canva AI, Notion AI and Sana Agents (so you don’t have to). Instead, take the time to reflect on how AI is shaping your field and get ready for what autumn brings.


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  • Papers


    • “Self-Adapting Language Models (SEAL)” – Zweiger et al., MIT, 2025

    • “The Darwin Gödel Machine” – Sakana AI & UBC, May 2025


  • Clips


    • Sam Altman + Jony Ive IO announcement (YouTube)

    • iyO earbud reveal (TED talk)

    • Generalist robotics demo

    • Gemini Robotics SDK launch


  • Summer Reading & Listening


    • Klara and the Sun – Kazuo Ishiguro

    • AI och makten över besluten – Steinrud et al.

    • BBC In Our Time (podcast)

    • Hard Fork (New York Times)

    • The Ezra Klein Show


  • Tools to Test


    • Synthesia (AI Video)

    • Canva AI

    • Notion AI

    • SANA agents

  • In the Long Run
    "In the Long Run" Podcast – Where technology, organizational change, and strategy collide. Join three experts as they break down the latest tech news, explore how technology is shaping conversations, and offer actionable insights on navigating AI and digital transformation in organizations. Get ahead of the curve and drive your business forward—one episode at a time