What does it take to protect a brand that millions of people wear with pride? In this episode of In The Club, host Chris Jaeger sits down with two giants in collegiate licensing: Dale Arens (University of Iowa) and Craig Westemeier (University of Texas at Austin). With nearly 70 years of combined experience, Dale and Craig open up about what it really takes to manage two of the most iconic brands in college sports. From the rallying power of “Go Hawks!” to the global reach of the Longhorn logo, they explore the emotional weight behind a logo and the day-to-day work of protecting it. They dive into the evolution of brand licensing, the impact of NIL, the value of tenure, and why trust equity is a game-changer on campus. Whether you're in higher ed, athletics, or brand strategy, this is a masterclass in building legacy.