In late October 2019, Ryan Ahlwardt and I sat down at a library near Indianapolis, Indiana to record the first episode of this podcast. Four years later, we're still going strong.

As we've tried to do every year around the anniversary (we missed last year for some reason), Ryan and I reflected on the past year and celebrating the podcast turning another year older.

If you're new to the show, the music you hear at the beginning and end was created by Ryan, a singer/songwriter who was previously a member of the highly acclaimed a capella group "Straight No Chaser." Ryan has become a good friend, and he's got some really cool life updates that he shares in this episode, including a new single called "Alone for Christmas" that you can listen to on any streaming platform.

You can check out Ryan's music and social media at ryansongs.com.

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