This week, your hosts Jonathan and Carolyn accompany Jonathan Richman on a journey to the astral plane! After acknowledging that this song might sound a bit "problematic" to contemporary listeners, we also talk about the importance of art that makes space to acknowledge and process impulses that aren't entirely appropriate or socially acceptable. Carolyn argues that the intensity of Richman's youthful yearnings goes hand in hand with Astral Plane's concerns with the supernatural, and Jonathan shares some thoughts on the musical touches that lend Astral Plane some delicious emotional complexity and flavor.