In this chaotic conversation, Demian & Shane come back on the show as a dynamic duo (you won't believe how dynamic) to discuss noise as a "genre."

Although the conversation bounces around, we discuss some of the origins of noise, its connections to outsider performance art, some of the dangerous historical trends and fads associated with it, and what that noise ethos means to Shane and Demian.

If you were like me and were curious about noise but were too afraid to ask, I don't know if you would've asked this question, but you'd definitely get a few answers.

The songs used in this episode are intended to be representative of noise and are

Throbbing Gristle - "Hamburger Lady"

Merzbow - "Woodpecker No. 1"