What does it mean to be a man shaped by both power and tenderness?

In this wide-ranging and deeply personal conversation, Brazilian-born theologian Gustavo Santos shares his journey from the boardrooms of São Paulo to the forests of British Columbia—and from performative success to a deeper encounter with the Divine.

Together, Gustavo and host Ned Abenroth explore:
• The cultural shape of masculinity in Brazil and North America
• The healing power of Council and the Men’s Rites of Passage
• How ancestral wounds and blessings shape identity
• What it means to lead with “a strong kindness”

With candor and grace, Gustavo reflects on finding a home in his own story, and discovering that belonging isn’t earned—it’s inherited.

🔸 A story of migration, masculinity, and mystery.
🔸 An invitation to drop the masks and show up, just as you are.

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