Most of us probably associate the divine with the Christian God, or at least with a monotheistic, anthropomorphized God, but of course this is not the only way to think of divinity and one fascinating and controversial alternative is pantheism, the view that the material world, universe, or nature is what is divine. Thinking of divinity in this way has enormous implications for all sorts of aspects of human life and I'm going to speak with Dr Mary-Jane Rubenstein about how to make sense of pantheism in the world today and what some of its implications are.