In this engaging conversation, Donna interviews Jackie Schuld, ATR-BC, REAT, an autistic art therapist. Jackie shares her journey into art therapy, the importance of creative expression, and her experiences living abroad. She discusses her current sabbatical, the role of art in therapy, and her upcoming book project focusing on the joys of being autistic. Jackie also reflects on three of her books that Donna is excited to dig into, including "Grief is a Mess," "Making it Through Chemotherapy," and "Therapy Private Practice." Finally, she emphasizes the significance of self-care and encouragement in the mental health field. Donna and Jackie become fast friends through this deeply introspective conversation, yet their shared joy of life shines through. Link to Jackie's website: https://www.jackieschuld.com/home Link to Joy of Autism Essay Submission: https://lnkd.in/gc6hz2Hk

00:00 - Introduction to Jackie Schuld 06:15 - Jackie's Sabbatical and Creative Freedom 09:06 - The Role of Art in Therapy 12:12 - Exploring Artistic Expression 14:56 - The Joys of Being Autistic Book Project 17:54 - Jackie's Journey Through Grief and Art 20:51 - The Impact of Creative Work on Life 21:36 - Navigating Creative Paths and Naysayers 22:50 - The Pain of Writing and Personal Experience 24:50 - Grief and Its Unexpected Audience 25:48 - Starting a Private Practice in Mental Health 28:21 - Art Therapy's Role in Autism 33:38 - Living Abroad and Career Changes 37:59 - The Journey to Self-Discovery and Art