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I Can't Believe It's Worship!
Lester and Lester
20 episodes
1 week ago
Lester O (Big Lester) and Lester S (Small Lester) both lead worship at a local church in Perth, WA. Sharing a passion for worship ministry and how God transforms lives through encounters with Him, they also enjoy goofing off and doing worship missions trips together. Here, they share occasional dumb jokes, questions, experiences, and their insights about Biblical worship, theology, and practice. While they may not always agree and often have more questions than answers, they embrace the journey of stewarding Scripture to discover what it means to worship in spirit and truth.
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Lester O (Big Lester) and Lester S (Small Lester) both lead worship at a local church in Perth, WA. Sharing a passion for worship ministry and how God transforms lives through encounters with Him, they also enjoy goofing off and doing worship missions trips together. Here, they share occasional dumb jokes, questions, experiences, and their insights about Biblical worship, theology, and practice. While they may not always agree and often have more questions than answers, they embrace the journey of stewarding Scripture to discover what it means to worship in spirit and truth.
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Episodes (20/20)
I Can't Believe It's Worship!
#20 Worship on Mission (2/4): Pastor Matsumoto and the Coming Revival in Japan

In Part 2 of our Worship on Mission mini-series, Lester O and Lester S speak with Pastor Matsumoto, senior pastor of Hope Christ Church in Kagoshima, Japan.

A first-generation Christian, Pastor Matsumoto shares his powerful testimony of salvation and his journey into pastoral ministry—how God called him to shepherd His people in a land where the gospel is still taking root.

We discuss the current spiritual landscape of Japan, the impact of partnerships with churches from Singapore and Faith Community Church Perth, and the growing sense of unity among believers for the sake of the gospel.

Pastor Matsumoto also shares his hopes and dreams for revival in Japan and his perspective on the role of worship in preparing hearts for that move of God.

Be encouraged and inspired as we join hearts with our brothers and sisters in Japan and catch a glimpse of God’s heart for this nation.

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1 week ago
48 minutes 18 seconds

I Can't Believe It's Worship!
#19 Worship on Mission (1/4): Kevin’s Story from Kagoshima, Japan

In the first episode of our Worship on Mission mini-series, Lester O and Lester S sit down with Kevin, a missionary from Perth, Western Australia, who left behind life as a banker and barista to serve in Kagoshima, Japan.

Kevin shares his journey of being called to Japan, the preparations and challenges of missions, and what it means to live out worship as a living sacrifice in a nation where less than 1% of people are Christian.

We talk about life on the mission field, the role of worship in evangelism, and Kevin’s hopes and dreams for revival in Japan.

Join us in this conversation—and worship with us—as we explore how obedience, surrender, and song come together in God’s global mission.

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3 weeks ago
45 minutes 25 seconds

I Can't Believe It's Worship!
#18 Worship Ministry in an Intentional Disciple-Making Church (f.t. Ps Daniel Yan)

Hosts Lester O and Lester S sit down with Pastor Daniel Yan, Senior Pastor of Faith Community Church, for a candid conversation about worship and disciple-making. Pastor Dan shares the personal journey that led him to shepherd FCC and explains what makes the church’s disciple-making identity unique.

Together they explore big questions:

  • Shouldn’t disciple-making be central to every church?

  • Why does the music segment hold such priority in a worship service?

  • What should a worship ministry look like in a church that’s intentionally making disciples?

  • What dreams does Pastor Dan carry for the future of FCC’s worship ministry?

Lean in and let this discussion inspire your own vision for worship and discipleship—and join us in worshipping and growing together as you listen.

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1 month ago
50 minutes 21 seconds

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#17 Worship Together 2025 (Special Episode) - The Songs that Changed our Lives

Join hosts Lester O and Lester S as they recap and relive Worship Together 2025, an unforgettable night organised by Rev Dr Michael Battersby and The King’s Worship Academy. Worshippers from across Perth gathered with hearts wide open, and we were joined by four inspiring guest worship leaders—Fiona Jones, Christian Nafie, Ned Davies, and Jade-Lori.

Each guest shared the story behind their personal “go-to” worship song, then led the room in the very song that carries their testimony.

Press play and worship along with us as you hear the conversations, the music, and the moments of God’s presence that made the night so special.

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1 month ago
1 hour 3 minutes 54 seconds

I Can't Believe It's Worship!
#16 The FCC 100 Choir – Worshiping as One Voice

What happens when a hundred voices come together to worship as one?

In this special episode, we take you behind the scenes of the inaugural FCC 100 Choir—from the heart-stirring idea, to the powerful moment it all came together on stage.

Join Lester O and Lester S as they share how the plan was born, what the journey looked like, and how God moved through the people who said “yes.” You’ll also hear testimonies from the crowd and reflections on what this choir meant for the church community.

Whether you’re a worshipper or someone who just loves seeing the church come alive, this episode will lift your spirit and stir your faith.

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2 months ago
46 minutes 59 seconds

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#15 Zamar (Hebrew Praise Words Pt. 7) – Praise with Instruments

What role do instruments play in worship? The Hebrew word Zamar points us to the practice of praising God through music—literally making melody on instruments as an act of worship.

In this final episode of the Hebrew Praise Words series, Lester O and Lester S explore the meaning of Zamar, its biblical roots, and how instrumental music shapes our expressions of praise today.

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2 months ago
48 minutes 33 seconds

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#14 Shabach (Hebrew Praise Words Pt. 6) – A Shout of Triumph

Is there a place for loud praise in worship? Shabach—a Hebrew word for praise—reveals that sometimes, worship looks like a victorious shout. It’s bold, it’s loud, and it declares God’s power with confidence.

Join Lester O and Lester S as they explore the meaning of Shabach and discuss how expressive praise is not only biblical, but sometimes necessary.

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3 months ago
29 minutes 11 seconds

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#13 Barak (Hebrew Praise Words Pt. 5) – Kneeling in Reverence

What does it mean to bless the Lord—and how is that different from praise? The Hebrew word Barak offers a rich picture of worship that involves kneeling, humility, and reverence before God.

In this episode, Lester O and Lester S unpack the meaning of Barak and how this posture of worship reshapes our understanding of what it means to praise and bless the Lord.

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3 months ago
37 minutes 36 seconds

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#12 Tehillah (Hebrew Praise words pt. 4) - A Spontaneous Praise-song

Why is singing commonplace in the Christian faith? Is it biblically or culturally anchored? Tehillah lends some insight into this aspect of praising God with our singing.


Join Lester O and Lester S in this episode as they break down Tehillah and what it means to praise God with our singing!

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3 months ago
36 minutes 6 seconds

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#11 Halal (Hebrew Praise words pt. 3) - Boasting in the Lord

"Hallelujah" is used often in our churches, but do we understand the meaning of it's root "halal"? What does it mean to boast in the Lord? How is this distinct from the other Hebrew words for praise?


Join Lester O and Lester S in this episode as they uncover a Hebrew word that possibly brings our worship and evangelism on a beautiful collision course!

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4 months ago
39 minutes 13 seconds

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#10 Where Are You Looking? - A Sermon by Lester Ong on Psalm 121

In this episode, Lester O and Lester S take a detour from the mini-series on the Hebrew words for praise and bring to you a recording of Lester Ong's recent sermon on Psalm 121.


"I lift up my eyes to the mountains -- where does my help come from?" - Psalm 121 : 1

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4 months ago
38 minutes 50 seconds

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#9 Towdah (Hebrew Praise words pt.2) - A Sacrifice of Praise

Praise gets tough in difficult seasons of our lives. Through Biblical examples like King David and Jonah, we see their response of bringing to the Lord a 'sacrifice of praise' even in their darkest valleys.


Join Lester O and Lester S in this episode as they seek to understand the biblical posture for praising God before seeing the breakthrough!

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5 months ago
26 minutes 14 seconds

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#8 Yadah (Hebrew Praise words pt.1) - How does one word mean 'Praise' and 'Confession'?

As a worshipper within the modern church, are we familiar with how 'Praise' is described in the Hebrew? How should these understandings of the biblical meanings of 'Praise' affect and educate our response to God?


Join Lester O and Lester S in this episode as they dive into breaking down the first Hebrew word for praise 'Yadah' and wrestle with what that means for Charismatics and Conservative Christians in their postures of worship.

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5 months ago
37 minutes 45 seconds

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#7 Worship vs. Performance. Finding the line (f.t. Ps David Wong)

What do we really mean when we say someone is “performing” in worship? Is there a place for performance in a worship service—or does it distract from true worship?

In this episode, Big Lester and Small Lester are joined by Dave, their worship pastor, in a recorded plenary discussion as they tackle the tension between platform and posture, excellence and authenticity. Join the conversation as they explore whether performance can co-exist with worship.

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6 months ago
30 minutes 17 seconds

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#6 Too Casual? Rethinking Holiness in Modern Worship

Why did God strike Uzzah for touching the ark? Why were Nadab and Abihu consumed by fire? What happened with Ananias and Sapphira—and what do these stories tell us about God’s holiness today?

In this episode, Big Lester and Small Lester wrestle with some of the Bible’s most confronting passages, ask what spiritual standards we should expect of worship leaders, and explore whether we've become too casual in our approach to worship. Join the conversation as they dig into the reverence God deserves—and what it means for modern-day worship.

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6 months ago
52 minutes 36 seconds

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#5 Holy Ground: Worshipping with Reverent Confidence

Why is it important to understand the holiness of God in our worship? What does 'holy' even mean? How then can we, as fallen, sinful people approach a holy God?


Join Big Lester and Small Lester as they uncover what it means to worship a holy God!

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7 months ago
47 minutes 19 seconds

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#4 From Ritual to Relationship: Worshipping in Spirit

Continuing on from the previous episode, in John 4, Jesus has an encounter with the samaritan woman at the well and tells her that the Father seeks worshippers who will worship him in spirit and in truth.


What does worshipping in spirit mean? Is there a move away from external religiosity to worship that is more personal? Is it simply a response to the samaritan woman's questions about the location of worship? Is the Spirit fo God moving in our worship even biblical? Join Lester and Lester today as they unpack what it means to worship the Lord in spirit.

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7 months ago
52 minutes 9 seconds

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#3 Worship That God Seeks: Worshipping in Truth

In John 4, Jesus’ encounter with the Samaritan woman at the well challenges her misconceptions about worship, leading to the well-known verse: “The Father seeks worshippers who worship in spirit and in truth” (John 4:23).


In this episode, The Lesters explore what it truly means to worship in truth, why it matters, and its role in worship ministry. Join them as they seek to understand the kind of worshippers our Heavenly Father desires.

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8 months ago
52 minutes 14 seconds

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#2 Worship Redefined: What It Is—and What It Isn't

What does worship really mean? Most Christians immediately think of music and singing when someone talks about "worship", but is that all there is to worship?


In this episode the Lesters talk about what worship is and what it isn't, the difference between praise and worship and the importance of corporate worship. Join the Lesters as they converse through these questions!

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8 months ago
45 minutes 44 seconds

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#1 Welcome to the Podcast!

Welcome to our podcast! In this episode we introduce ourselves as hosts, our personal worship journeys and how this idea of starting a podcast came to be! Come join us on this podcast as we talk about all things worship!

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9 months ago
38 minutes 38 seconds

I Can't Believe It's Worship!
Lester O (Big Lester) and Lester S (Small Lester) both lead worship at a local church in Perth, WA. Sharing a passion for worship ministry and how God transforms lives through encounters with Him, they also enjoy goofing off and doing worship missions trips together. Here, they share occasional dumb jokes, questions, experiences, and their insights about Biblical worship, theology, and practice. While they may not always agree and often have more questions than answers, they embrace the journey of stewarding Scripture to discover what it means to worship in spirit and truth.