We’ve been taught everything except how to be human. In a world obsessed with output, Human School is where we study what happens within. This podcast was born from a journal entry during a breakdown. A reminder that struggle isn’t weakness - it’s instruction.
Human School reframes pain as purpose, productivity as presence, and leadership as inner clarity. We’re building the education we never got. Through stories, tools, and raw conversations, we help people stop performing their lives–and start participating in them.
Welcome to Human School.
We’ve been taught everything except how to be human. In a world obsessed with output, Human School is where we study what happens within. This podcast was born from a journal entry during a breakdown. A reminder that struggle isn’t weakness - it’s instruction.
Human School reframes pain as purpose, productivity as presence, and leadership as inner clarity. We’re building the education we never got. Through stories, tools, and raw conversations, we help people stop performing their lives–and start participating in them.
Welcome to Human School.
What if the person who always makes things sound fun is actually doing the hardest work of all?
What does it cost to be the bridge that connects people to their next true thing—knowing you might get walked on, knowing they might never come back, knowing you have to keep showing up anyway?
Annie F. Downs has built a New York Times bestselling writing career, launched an award-winning podcast, and created a network that reaches millions. But beneath the joy she's known for is a woman who's learning to hold grief in one hand and hope in the other—and not let go of either.
As an Enneagram 7, Annie's wired to chase joy and avoid pain, to keep moving, to make everything sound fun. But life doesn't work that way. And in this conversation, she opens up about what happens when the fun runs out and you're left sitting in the hard stuff alone.
Annie reveals the true cost of being a "trusted bridge"—a person who connects others to what matters most, even when it means they'll walk right past you to get there. She shares about the loneliness that comes with public life, the parts people don't see: grieving alone, making impossible decisions, carrying financial weight, and the exhausting work of showing up when you'd rather disappear. She talks about losing someone who believed in her, about learning to sit in grief rather than run from it, and about why she's planning to shut down her entire company for the summer of 2027—a radical sabbatical practice inspired by biblical wisdom about letting fields rest.
This is a conversation about what it means to make joy and grief roommates, to trust your calling when it gets hard, and to keep showing up as yourself even when yourself isn't always fun.
In this conversation, you'll learn:
Welcome to Human School, where we learn what matters most.
- Miles Adcox
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What We Discuss:
00:00:00 - Intro: Welcome to Human School
00:01:29 - Why Annie Calls Herself a "Trusted Bridge"
00:05:30 - The Parts of Public Life People Don't See
00:09:42 - How Enneagram 7s Avoid Pain by Chasing Joy
00:12:15 - When the Fun Person Has to Sit in Grief
00:17:28 - Learning to Hold Joy and Grief at the Same Time
00:24:56 - When Community Feels Far Away Even When You're Surrounded
00:36:55 - When Your Mission Means Losing Your Audience
00:46:09 - Making Peace With What You Can't Control
00:53:42 - Planning a Full Summer Sabbatical in 2027
01:12:29 - Breaking Into New Areas of Media
01:28:34 - Making Faith Attractive and Invitational Instead of Activating
01:36:06 - Final Thoughts: We're Going to Make It