This is Human Nurture. I’m Jason Brand, a couples therapist and we are asking the question– “How does a couples therapist learn to do their Job?”  Today we’ve a consultant interview with Beth O’Brien. Beth is out of Fort Collins, Colorado. She’s a Level 3 PACT therapist, she’s a highly trained trauma therapist and I found out in the interview that she’s also a yoga teacher. I’ve always known Beth to be a highly trained clinician and a relatable person, however, what stood out to me in this interview is her skills as a teacher. We unpack the Charley and Yael initial interview and look at concepts like - the window of tolerance, couple regulation strategies and trauma.  Beth does a great job of making these concepts understandable and (most importantly if you ask me) she explains them in the context of healing. So take a listen to my wonderful colleague and I discussing the first clinical interview with Charley and Yael.