Hello there. We have arrived at the final episode of Season 2 of Human Nurture. I'm Jason Brand, your host, a PACT level 3 therapist out of Berkeley, California. What a journey this has been— pandemic, shelter in place, tele-health, three couples and a whole lot of consultant interviews… AND… we made it. I’ve got a great final episode for you. Krista Jordan, PhD joins me. Krista was the perfect consultant match for Charley and Yael. Like Charley and Yael, Krista threw her whole self into the process. I love her basic philosophy, “that all humans are imperfect, but that we can grow and change in deep and profound ways given adequate support and guidance”. She’s not afraid to point out areas where growth is necessary and she is so good at providing support and guidance. She’s out of Austin Texas, she’s has a PHD in clinical psychology, I really enjoyed working with her to craft the episode and having the opportunity to sit down and talk shop. I can’t think of a better final interview for the season.