Join me as I talk with Belgian bat-spotting champion Nils Bouillard. We'll find out why counting sheep is a far shot easier than counting bats, how blood-sucking vampire bats mightn't be so bad after all, and what it's like to discover a species entirely new to science. Listen in for an a-bat-solutely fascinating discussion on our nocturnal flying friends, alongside the person who's seen more of them than anyone.

As always, head over to the website at https://www.elliotconnor.com/podcast for more about the show, past episodes and everything else. See you there!

You can find Nils on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/nils-bouillard-38853a126/.

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