In this conversation, Howie discusses the complex issues surrounding immigration, particularly in relation to Pope Francis' recent letter to US bishops. He explores the moral implications of immigration policies, the dignity of human life, and the balance between compassion and legal responsibility. The discussion also touches on Trump's approach to Gaza and the geopolitical implications of US military presence in various regions, including North Korea. Throughout, Howie emphasizes the need for clear immigration policies that respect human dignity while ensuring community safety.00:00 Introduction and Context of Immigration Discussion01:18 Papal Influence on Immigration Policy05:08 Pope Francis's Letter to US Bishops10:29 The Dignity of the Human Person17:21 Balancing Rights and Responsibilities in Immigration23:06 The Complexity of Immigration Issues26:16 The Importance of Policy in Immigration29:19 The Tension Between Rules and Freedom35:40 Immigration and the Ordering of Love36:01 Hamas and the Complexity of Conflict47:27 Trump's Approach to Gaza Redevelopment54:13 North Korea's Response to U.S. Military Presence56:30 Personal Reflections and Life Updates