In this episode is the Canadian poet Moez Surani talks about the violence of language, about identity, and the distance between where we are and where we belong. And about happiness.

Talking to Surani is the award-winning Norwegian writer Eivind Hofstad Evjemo, one of three guest interviewers as Linn Ullmann takes some time off to finish her novel. You can read more about Evjemo and our two other guest interviewers here, and check out our show notes here.

Music by Kingocito and Sandra Kolstad. Artwork by Julius Vidarssønn Langhoff.

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