Not gonna lie, there's a lot of bickering in this one... but it's all love. We're diving into the chaotic art of podcasting in this episode, trying to navigate the minefield of political discussions without actually discussing politics. It's meta, it's messy, and it's our attempt to figure out what this podcast even is. So, if you're curious about the behind-the-scenes of making a podcast while trying to keep the peace, tune in to see if we manage to succeed, or if we just end up making an even bigger mess. Welcome to "How to Make a Mess" - the podcast about making a podcast.