Julia and Maddie sit down over zoom and get to know each other – no, seriously, they've legit never met before. The girls chat about how Julia became the CEO of Dating Without Dating Apps and the value she found in focusing on herself. Then they get into how easy it is to take "hits" in dating as a reflection of yourself (even when it really isn't). Maddie gives the audience updates on her dating life and Julia drops some pretty harsh advice (Maddie needed it though). And lastly, the girls run through some listener questions – everything from pregaming the first date to red flags and green flags, guys with sports cars, and having the tougher conversations.

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