On this week’s Midweek Catchup, Kaye and Karen swap gallows humour for sleepless nights — and find themselves comparing coping mechanisms that range from midnight lentil mashing to burning old parkas. Karen’s chemo fatigue meets Kaye’s restless mind, and between them they land on something every woman over 45 will recognise: the impossible balance between slowing down and staying strong.

Whether you’re running on fumes or trying to find your own off switch, this one’s for anyone whose brain refuses to clock off — even when your body’s begging it to.

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⚠️ Disclaimer: The discussion includes mentions of sleep remedies and supplements. Always check with your medical team before trying any new sleep aids or treatments.

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