Join us before the year ends as we doff our caps and bend the knee in a chat with Peter Kaestner - ex American diplomat and man who has seen more bird species than anyone else in the world! Peter takes us through the world of bird watching at the elite level, and how his love for birds led him to a career that saw him serve his country and travel the globe in search of birds. With a life thoroughly well lived, his story to see his 10,000th bird species is nothing short of Hollywood ready! (This could also be the first podcast interview live interrupted by the appearance of a bird - and what more fitting guest for it to happen with!) A massive thanks to Peter for all his time, and to the team at Birdfair for brining us together in the first place.  For more How many geese? head over to the Patreon at www.patreon.com/howmanygeese  Cundinamarca antipitta (Grallaria kaestneri) recording courtesy of Ross Gallardy, XC354319. Accessible at www.xeno-canto.org/354319