In this episode Clemmie speaks to the English Cricket legend Andrew Strauss about his experience with loss and grief, after losing his wife Ruth Strauss in 2018. He introduces a concept of 'doing death well' which was incredibly important for Ruth before she died. And so they wonder - what would "doing grief well" look like?

Andrew says: "it baffles me that it’s not more of an open conversation, that there’s not more social norms about what grieving is."

We couldn't agree more. It's more conversations like this, with national heroes and your next-door neighbour that will crack this subject open so we can create a healthy, open culture about something we will all go through.