This podcast episode features a discussion on the evolving landscape of healthcare, focusing on the importance of quality in patient care and the challenges of aligning physician incentives with quality goals. The guests share insights on how healthcare delivery is influenced by reimbursement policies and the need for a collaborative approach to improve patient outcomes. In this conversation, Brian Betner discusses the critical gaps in clinical leadership and the importance of understanding success and failure in quality initiatives. He emphasizes the need for cultural change within healthcare organizations and the role of Value-Based Enterprises (VBE) in redefining physician engagement. The discussion also highlights the significance of actionable data in quality improvement and looks ahead to the future of healthcare, focusing on the evolving expectations of patients and the necessity for healthcare systems to adapt.