No one was more surprised than Toby when he found himself in his first conducting lesson. In this podcast we hear all about Toby's journey into opera and classical music, including his training in Russia and recent appointment as the Head of Conducting at the Royal College of Music. Toby catches up with Into Opera's Artistic Director, Genevieve Raghu, and discusses some of the challenges facing the opera industry in June 2020 and what it's been like to be a conductor in isolation. This podcast has been recorded as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic.