Want to listen to two random guys chatting away in a spare bedroom critiquing incredibly successful professional media folks and telling them how to improve? Well you are in the right place because thats what we are up to this episode.

There are some moments of insight but it also feels like there's quite a few places where we appear to backflip on what we'd said earlier. That said, we still think its worth us putting out and you guys having a listen.

As always we'd love to hear your thoughts on all this so please leave a comment on whatever podcast player you are using. Thanks.