Have you ever gotten a latte at your favorite shop, and spent a few moments wistfully admiring the beautiful latte art adorning it's cusping crown? Me too. This week, host Ryan Castelaz, Owner & Creative Director of discourse | a liquid workshop, sat down with coffee industry legend Derrick Wessels, who took 1st place at the USCC National Latte Art Throwdown in 2018, and 4th place at the World Latte Art Open in 2016, to discuss his journey in coffee, and the feels associated with competing at the industries highest levels. Over the course of this inspiring conversation, Ryan and Derrick also chat about the origins of Derrick's first coffee company, which he started for a total investment of under $300, his winding and wonderful road to co-owning 5Bar, an incredible craft cocktail lounge in Beloit, WI, and the trouble you're in for if you spend too much energy chasing cool, and not enough chasing cash.

Huge shouts out to Luke Rivard, who composed our opening theme, and to our Executive Producer Brogan Molloy.