Fam, we're back for another week of Hot Coffee for the Creative Soul, authentic conversations with professional creatives living at the intersection of passion and profit. This week, host Ryan Castelaz, Owner & Creative Director of discourse | a liquid workshop, joins Lee Carter of Five Watt Coffee for an inspiring conversation full of hearty laughs, and heady thoughts. In Part 1 of this two part conversation, Ryan and Lee discuss the origins of Five Watt, the malleability of our creative mediums, the importance of staying true to your vision, and the art of reframing failure as forward motion.