Being a creative person is tough.
We want to make cool things, but then life hits us with insecurity, rejection, schedules, etc. How do we push past all the noise and make the things that light us up?
Welcome, Dear Listener, to a space where it's okay to ask questions and dive deep into the world of fear, creativity, and the roadblocks that get in the way of us busting forth with creativity energy. We're a couple of weirdos who want to talk about the hard things with you, so welcome to our living room--pull up a chair, cover up with a cozy blanket, and let's get started.
Honestly, Dear Listener is a weekly podcast hosted by Emily Hatch and Carrie Schaeffer.
Being a creative person is tough.
We want to make cool things, but then life hits us with insecurity, rejection, schedules, etc. How do we push past all the noise and make the things that light us up?
Welcome, Dear Listener, to a space where it's okay to ask questions and dive deep into the world of fear, creativity, and the roadblocks that get in the way of us busting forth with creativity energy. We're a couple of weirdos who want to talk about the hard things with you, so welcome to our living room--pull up a chair, cover up with a cozy blanket, and let's get started.
Honestly, Dear Listener is a weekly podcast hosted by Emily Hatch and Carrie Schaeffer.

Ever feel like the world is on fire, your creative energy is on life support, and the certainty you once clung to—faith, government, the idea that adults know what they’re doing—was all an illusion?
Yeah, us too.
This week, we’re getting real about the existential free-fall of realizing certainty was never actually real, the shame spiral that comes with feeling too much, and the struggle to carve out small pockets of joy without guilt. Along the way, we unpack the absurdity of self-directed cruelty (love yourself, you asshole), the tension between being informed and completely overwhelmed, and why questioning everything doesn’t mean you’re failing—it means you’re alive. Buckle up for brutal honesty, questionable metaphors, and maybe, just maybe, a little hope.
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TIMECODES
0:00 Intro
0:33 - We’re the fun ones. So why don’t I feel fun?
5:23 - Invalidating our own painful feelings/feeling shame for feelings
12:16 - Fundamentalist upbringing contributing to feeling shame for feelings
13:087 - Uncertainty vs. uncertainty
22:34 - Finding balance between wallowing and purposefully ignorant
24:52 - “Love yourself, asshole!”
26:18 - Access to information is a double-edged sword
Check out our episodes about spiritual deconstruction/fundamentalism: