Daniel has been in Andalucia hearing about the golden years before 1492 when the world religions lived in harmony. Front row of comedy clubs and taking up space. Noticing the presence and the absence of living beings. Interrupting space in a room. Phantom limbs after amputations. The brain gradually adjusts to loss….or maybe never does. Discussion of “What Remains” series on iPlayer. Treatment of abused fat actor in the series. Fighting for life and giving up and losing the will to live. Discussion of “The Hit” from the 1980s. Couples together for decades and then losing one. Is it like the phantom limb? The sound of silence similar to not being there. Sarah discusses her Dad and still feels a great loss. Daniel talks of two children leaving home and leaving a void. Coming home to an empty house. Partners not in/in…do you instinctively know? Daniel gets into “This House is Empty Now” by Elvis Costello. Rooms have memories of good and bad times. The film “Gaslight” discussed. Tim Bryars campaign to save the gas street lamps referenced. Feng shui and feel of space. Ghosts and trapped spirits. Murder scenes like 10 Rillington Place. Live radio creating atmosphere like Steve Wright’s (RIP) love songs show on Sunday morning. The gap he leaves in our lives and routines. Burglary and looking for something that is missing. Auschwitz discussed…the birds don’t sing there. Dead child’s bedroom kept intact and standing there to sense their existence and so much more.